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blackangold 10-22-2013 05:55 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 540254)
I don't get cutting Wilson over Vilma (or several others for that matter)

Vilma does not count against our 53 yet. If they decide to bring him back we will have to cut another player at that point.

I don't get the Wilson move either but perhaps the coaches know more than we do about his injury.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 05:57 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 540268)
Vilma does not count against our 53 yet. If they decide to bring him back we will have to cut another player at that point.

We'll have to cut someone else when/if Vilma is activated

ScottF 10-22-2013 06:02 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
isn't Reddick on the roster too?

confused

Danno 10-22-2013 06:07 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 540273)
isn't Reddick on the roster too?

confused

Yes he is, and the coaches love his potential.

papz 10-22-2013 06:08 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Umm...

Wow.

I'm pretty disappointed we never truly tried to unleash Wilson as we did with Junior. It took some time but that would out really well for us being patient with him. While he may or may not have worked out, I wish we would have given him some more time.

TheOak 10-22-2013 06:09 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Considering how our defense is playing this season and Wilson having 1 sack and 4 tackles (0 assists) in 4 games. He hasn't produced and isn't needed.

nola_swammi 10-22-2013 06:11 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I wonder if Martez was cut over Dawson because of salary cap? Under 3 different def coordinators and showed so much potential the following years this a head scratcher since Humber, Reddick, Dawson, Herring, & Abdul-Quddus I thought will be preferable cut. Why not trade him for someone or 2015 at least draft pick

blackangold 10-22-2013 06:11 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 540279)
Considering how our defense is playing this season and Wilson having 1 sack and 4 tackles (0 assists) in 4 games. He hasn't produced and isn't needed.

Unfortunately this is the truth. I would hate to see Wilson go to another team and become a pro-bowl player, but best of luck to him as he will be signed soon.

TheOak 10-22-2013 06:13 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 540281)
Unfortunately this is the truth. I would hate to see Wilson go to another team and become a pro-bowl player, but best of luck to him as he will be signed soon.

My post came off a lot colder than I intended. I wish him the best, we just don't need him right now.

nola_swammi 10-22-2013 06:15 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 540282)
My post came off a lot colder than I intended. I wish him the best, we just don't need him right now.

to get a sack with the play time he had this year and not being healthy those stats work for his benefit

ChrisXVI 10-22-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I'm definitely shocked Martez was cut... I know we all had such high hopes for him. He was pretty much leapfrogged though by Parys Haralson and our hopes for him are pretty much based on measurables like his size and speed. Maybe he is a better fit at ILB and I know some team will give him a shot but he didn't get it done here. Wish we had been able to trade him.


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nola_swammi 10-22-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
to get a sack with the play time he had this year and not being healthy those stats work for his benefit

nola_swammi 10-22-2013 06:17 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 540284)
to get a sack with the play time he had this year and not being healthy those stats work for his benefit

to get a sack with the play time he had this year and not being healthy those stats work for his benefit

dueceloose 10-22-2013 06:26 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Maybe the stats would be different if he was out there more.. he could even be nice if we catch another injury bug but you can't tell me he wouldn't be the better choice down the road out of some of the older guys on the roster.


Chasing can Newton down sideline to sideline you can't cut talent like that.

blackangold 10-22-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 540282)
My post came off a lot colder than I intended. I wish him the best, we just don't need him right now.

I didn't read it as you being cold or harsh. You're just stating the facts and its true, despite his athleticism he has not been able to produce or stay healthy.

B_Dub_Saint 10-22-2013 06:47 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I hate to see Wilson go but happy for Ryan.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 07:00 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 540280)
Why not trade him for someone or 2015 at least draft pick

Because we didn't have the time to look for a trade. Griffin was apparently a hot commodity and the Rams could have signed him at any time...

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 540294)
Chasing can Newton down sideline to sideline you can't cut talent like that.

Apparently they can, because they did...

Tobias-Reiper 10-22-2013 07:42 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 540247)
Problem is, haven't seen anything from Dawson.... like ever.

Just as much as we have seen from Wilson, no?

RaginCajun83 10-22-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
That's the last player I expected to see cut today to make room for Griffin. I had high hopes for him coming into the season but his production deserves him getting cut. Hope he can resign with the Saints sometime later this season

K Major 10-22-2013 08:20 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 540277)
Umm...

Wow.

I'm pretty disappointed we never truly tried to unleash Wilson as we did with Junior. It took some time but that would out really well for us being patient with him. While he may or may not have worked out, I wish we would have given him some more time.

+1. I honestly didn't see this coming and hopefully this guy is brought back in some capacity for the Saints.

Dang.

ChrisXVI 10-22-2013 08:22 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I wish we hadn't given up on him so soon... He has that freaky athleticism that you have to be born with. There's no way he doesn't get snatched up by a team that's in need of LB help like the Bears, Texans or dare I say it... the Falcons.


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Barry from MS 10-22-2013 08:57 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 540310)
There's no way he doesn't get snatched up by a team that's in need of LB help like the Bears, Texans or dare I say it... the Falcons.

My thoughts exactly...just not the Clowns. It would make me sick.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 09:02 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
He's really not what the Falcons are looking for in a OLB... They prefer the smaller 4-3 LBs who are good in coverage. They play in mostly sub-packages keeping only 2 LBs on the field.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 09:22 PM

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The Dude 10-22-2013 09:22 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I totally did not see that one coming. I hope we dont live to regret this like whats his face over on the Patriots.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 09:26 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 540319)
I hope we dont live to regret this like whats his face over on the Patriots.

We'd never win a Super-Bowl without Ninkovich; Oh Wait!? :rolleyes:

neugey 10-22-2013 09:31 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Good luck Martez ... and I'm sure we still have him on speed dial.

Does this mean we're carrying 3 QB's?! I think we're pretty serious about Griffin!

HouYat 10-22-2013 09:54 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Maybe Griffin will come up with an injury in practice & have to go on IR. then bring back Tez before Houston grabs him. They need LBs with the loss of Cushing & Montgomery.

|Mitch| 10-22-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by HouYat (Post 540327)
then bring back Tez before Houston grabs him. They need LBs with the loss of Cushing & Montgomery.

No way he clears waivers, somebody will nab him tomorrow...

D_it_up 10-22-2013 10:11 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
I had really high expectations for Wilson since they drafted him. Even higher this year with the switch to a 3-4. I really thought the guy was going to produce. I hate to see him go.

st thomas 10-22-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
3 dammed years and cut , dam the bad luck, was he smoking crakerjacks

alleycat_126 10-22-2013 10:49 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster?
 
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 540199)
Chris Burke ‏@ChrisBurke_SI 12m

Well-played, New Orleans. RT @Eric_Edholm: Source: Saints block Rams from signing QB Ryan Griffin by adding him to 53-man roster ...

Really..... they coulda had Ingram and Griffin for a cornerback or Zac Stacy....

alleycat_126 10-22-2013 10:56 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 540273)
isn't Reddick on the roster too?

confused

Yes Reddick is on the Roster.... played snaps in the Patriots game.... I was confused.. because I thought he originally had been cut!!!

WhoDat!656 10-22-2013 11:41 PM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Wasn't Martez playing well? I wonder why he was deemed expendable?

|Mitch| 10-23-2013 12:03 AM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 540344)
Wasn't Martez playing well? I wonder why he was deemed expendable?

He has been injured and only active 1 or 2 games this year, 1 sack and 4 tackles isn't playing well...

alleycat_126 10-23-2013 02:08 AM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by dueceloose (Post 540256)
This is a headscratcher smh.. :/ hopefully he come back after the qb drama subsides.

It's not to me..... It says I ( Shawn Payton) plan on being here beyond the career of Drew Brees....

And think about it this way If I groomed this girl from high school to be my Drew Brees Why would I let you come and put your Sam Bradford all over her and soil her before I can make her my Drew Brees....

- If you wanna put your Mark Sanchez all over my Drew Brees its gonna cost you.... .So either pay me for mine, or get your own!!!! Too much??

lee909 10-23-2013 02:26 AM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 540355)

And think about it this way If I groomed this girl from high school to be my Drew Brees Why would I let you come and put your Sam Bradford all over her and soil her before I can make her my Drew Brees....

- If you wanna put your Mark Sanchez all over my Drew Brees its gonna cost you.... .So either pay me for mine, or get your own!!!! Too much??


Sounds pretty creepy putting things that way.

lsutigerfan 10-23-2013 05:27 AM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
Tez must have been in the dog house, thats the only thing I can think of.

SaintnDE 10-23-2013 06:18 AM

Re: Ryan Griffin to active roster Martez Wilson cut
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 540356)
Sounds pretty creepy putting things that way.

indeed...don't get your bradford or sanchez all over me either!


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